Flower Seed Junky™ PM T25 Permanent Marker

[Holly]

New video from Legal Lettuce reviewing Seed Junky™ PM T25 Permanent Marker:



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[BabyMilo]

Seems to have made a reappearance at Cantourage.

Definitely not the same old batch.

Hopefully others get it soon!

 

[GrownHealth]

Seems to have made a reappearance at Cantourage.

Definitely not the same old batch.

Hopefully others get it soon!

Cheers mate for letting us know as it's been due for a couple of weeks and hopefully we have an update soon to see what else has appeared on their formulary

 

[BabyMilo]

Cheers mate for letting us know as it's been due for a couple of weeks and hopefully we have an update soon to see what else has appeared on their formulary

Same person who posted this said Vasco - Blueberry Banana is on their also

 

[ScriptSessionsUK]

Come on Medicann, pull your finger out on this one as well please

 

[BigFriendlyVaper]

Come on Medicann, pull your finger out on this one as well please

They got it but priced at £80 on medicann

 

[eddiedangerous]

They got it but priced at £80 on Medicann

how come they tend to ignore discounted rrp's, but always jump on any increase?!

 

[S.O.H™]

Get it, its banging

how come they tend to ignore discounted rrp's, but always jump on any increase?!

thats how they make money rather than fees perhaps? or bcoz they cann!

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its always been £80

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and this is UK

 

[eddiedangerous]

Get it, its banging

thats how they make money rather than fees perhaps? or bcoz they cann!

I can see the s.o.h BecoztheyCann logo incoming!!

 

[S.O.H™]

This is approx. worth the money imo in today's overpriced cut-throat market of controlled drugs (substances with abuse or diversion potential), which is one of the most heavily restricted sectors in healthcare in the UK

What's the alternative? Bitcoin/Dark Web/Ghost Mobile

 

[GIndica]

Now on at IPS £80. Anyone tried the new batch?

 

[Toby Trice]

Now on at IPS £80. Anyone tried the new batch?

I had some delivered Tuesday. Good strength of effects but if you are looking for strong marker smell and taste this isn't it unfortunately. London marker beats this hands down and is a 5er cheeper.

 

[UKMF]

This should be labeled micro seed junky. I cant actually believe it. Just arrived and the first couple nugs are riddled with them. What's with the top priced buds being seedy these days.

 

[S.O.H™]

This should be labeled micro seed junky. I cant actually believe it. Just arrived and the first couple nugs are riddled with them. What's with the top priced buds being seedy these days.

Permanent Marker Bag Evaluation​

• Cultivar: Permanent Marker (Seed Junky Genetics)
• Observation: Multiple immature seeds discovered within the material.
• Assessment: Indicates natural rodelization or pollination stress during production, resulting in bag seed formation.
• Mechanism: The discovery of seeds within commercial medical cannabis flowers points to a natural self-pollination response, often triggered by environmental stress or late-stage rodelization where an unharvested or stressed female plant produces viable pollen to preserve its genetic lineage.
• Implications for Quality: The allocation of plant energy toward seed production rather than unfertilized calyx (sinsemilla) development can lead to a localized reduction in overall potency, density, and terpene accumulation in affected areas.
• Viability: Seeds found via accidental stress-induced pollination (bag seeds) carry a higher genetic predisposition toward intersex traits (hermaphroditism), making them generally less desirable for deliberate indoor cultivation projects.

UK Medical Cannabis Quality Control Framework​

• Regulatory Oversight: While commercial medical cannabis products in the UK are theoretically subject to strict frameworks like EU-GMP (Good Manufacturing Practice) and MHRA compliance, the vast majority of imported herbal flower enters the market as unlicensed "specials".
• The "Specials" Loophole: Because these are unlicensed medicines, they bypass standard marketing authorizations that require rigorous, multi-stage evaluations for clinical consistency, safety, and efficacy.
• Standard of Inspection: Cultivation facilities abroad (often in geographies like Canada, Portugal, or South Africa) are tasked with maintaining rigorous quality control—including third-party testing for contaminants, cannabinoid profiles, and physical anomalies. However, issues like late-stage rodelization resulting in seeded flower (bag seeds) occasionally slip through export inspection phases.
• Accountability: When batches exhibit clear visual defects or physical contamination like seeds, recourse relies heavily on pharmacy-level batch reporting, clinic feedback loops, and patient quality control complaints to trigger batch recalls or credit notes from distributors.

 

[eddiedangerous]

Permanent Marker Bag Evaluation​

• Cultivar: Permanent Marker (Seed Junky Genetics)
• Observation: Multiple immature seeds discovered within the material.
• Assessment: Indicates natural rodelization or pollination stress during production, resulting in bag seed formation.
• Mechanism: The discovery of seeds within commercial medical cannabis flowers points to a natural self-pollination response, often triggered by environmental stress or late-stage rodelization where an unharvested or stressed female plant produces viable pollen to preserve its genetic lineage.
• Implications for Quality: The allocation of plant energy toward seed production rather than unfertilized calyx (sinsemilla) development can lead to a localized reduction in overall potency, density, and terpene accumulation in affected areas.
• Viability: Seeds found via accidental stress-induced pollination (bag seeds) carry a higher genetic predisposition toward intersex traits (hermaphroditism), making them generally less desirable for deliberate indoor cultivation projects.

UK Medical Cannabis Quality Control Framework​

• Regulatory Oversight: While commercial medical cannabis products in the UK are theoretically subject to strict frameworks like EU-GMP (Good Manufacturing Practice) and MHRA compliance, the vast majority of imported herbal flower enters the market as unlicensed "specials".
• The "Specials" Loophole: Because these are unlicensed medicines, they bypass standard marketing authorizations that require rigorous, multi-stage evaluations for clinical consistency, safety, and efficacy.
• Standard of Inspection: Cultivation facilities abroad (often in geographies like Canada, Portugal, or South Africa) are tasked with maintaining rigorous quality control—including third-party testing for contaminants, cannabinoid profiles, and physical anomalies. However, issues like late-stage rodelization resulting in seeded flower (bag seeds) occasionally slip through export inspection phases.
• Accountability: When batches exhibit clear visual defects or physical contamination like seeds, recourse relies heavily on pharmacy-level batch reporting, clinic feedback loops, and patient quality control complaints to trigger batch recalls or credit notes from distributors.

It's one of the only industries I've comes across that clearly doesn't have any sort of product returns factored into its business model (vapes etc excluded as I've seen a lot of examples of them being fairly good at that), and to that end, good luck on getting your money back on anything sub par in the flower department. Mostly every other thing I can think of, have some sort of legal requirement to at least entertain the idea of returns if what's promised is not met. And because of all this the producers take liberties with us, as seen here.
Any sort of decent QC would catch this, or clearly they simply just don't care. If it is caught, and allowed into the medical system, it should labelled as to why it didn't meet standards, and sold with a hefty discount (50%+), so you can make up your own minds. A lot of this would never make it into the flower marketplace if we're being real and something like this was in place, the producer would simply turn micro-seeded crop (and similar) into concentrates.
It's all a reminder we are still in the very early days of all this in the UK. It's not like its a budget bag - its £70! Grok informs me £70 will buy you about 0.71 grams of pure gold, or roughly 1.88 grams of 9-carat gold. Now I bet if they tried to palm you off with Silver, or that 9-carat instead of the pure - you'd have no troubles getting your money back!

 

[UKMF]

I paid 80 for this and iv been told by clinic to keep hold of all packaging and contents whilst they contact the pharmacy but when iv asked about replacement or adjustment to limit to compensate the loss of a third of my order. That the investigation could take several weeks and theres no guarantee of an outcome or replacement before the review has concluded. Also they cant amend my limit due to it unfortunately.

Not very reassuring. Has anyone had any luck getting flower refunded?

 

[Toby Trice]

I paid 80 for this and iv been told by clinic to keep hold of all packaging and contents whilst they contact the pharmacy but when iv asked about replacement or adjustment to limit to compensate the loss of a third of my order. That the investigation could take several weeks and theres no guarantee of an outcome or replacement before the review has concluded. Also they cant amend my limit due to it unfortunately.

Not very reassuring. Has anyone had any luck getting flower refunded?

I've had two refunds both for mouldy flower. The second time the supplier of the pharmacy said no to a refund. So I kicked off and said send my flower back then Which they couldn't so I got a full refund. After 8weeks!!

Its a wild west out there regarding quality concerns. I work in retail I wouldn't dream of making a customer wait 8 weeks for a refund on a faulty or poor quality product.

 

[S.O.H™]

I paid 80 for this and iv been told by clinic to keep hold of all packaging and contents whilst they contact the pharmacy but when iv asked about replacement or adjustment to limit to compensate the loss of a third of my order. That the investigation could take several weeks and theres no guarantee of an outcome or replacement before the review has concluded. Also they cant amend my limit due to it unfortunately.

Not very reassuring. Has anyone had any luck getting flower refunded?

I also messaged them and said I had seen this and they needed to be aware and respond accordingly!

 

[crustypig]

This arrived Tuesday and there wasn't much smell from the bag - very muted, and the buds were very dense. Virtually no marker smell or taste, just a mild fruity smell with hints of cut grass. After a couple days in the jar, it has clogged my grinder, so there is resin left, just not a lot of terpines... I did notice what looked like remnants of broken seeds in my grinder, can't say for sure but after seeing the reports of seeds I will wear my specs next time.

Have the terpines been baked away in transit? The G13 Haze arrived in the same box and was loud and fresh, by comparison... Is it even a fresh grow, or a few older packets laying around? Are the reports of microseeds actually indicative of a poor grow? Whothefuck even grows this anyway? ... left with a lot of questions.

I might avoid ordering during warm weather, as I suspect it's ruining some of our meds.

On the upside, starting to amass quite a collection of useless meds, inching ever closer to making a batch of oil.

2/4 meds this month, priced at £85 and £80 have been completely terpless and useless... High risk game this

 

[TheGreenAvenger]

So sorry to hear of your troubles with micro seeds guys, not great at all considering this was a very nice product the time I've had it.

The question remains as to whether the full grow contains these micro seeds, it's certain that the current batch number floating around seems to have issues with it.